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August 29th, 2000, 06:02 PM
#11
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I'd go and report this incident right away. If you're being arrested, they will read you your rights immediately. It sounds like a totally illegal interrogation.
As for the witness part, maybe the cops were not lying about that part. Let's use this hypothetical situation:
You go to the coffee shop at 10:45. Did you drive their with other friends driving too? At any point did you floor it, rev, etc? From my experience, in nice, rich areas, the people tend to report a lot of stupid ass things. So, even if you were just driving along, a homeowner nearby might have heard a modified exhaust (if you or your friend has one) and thought it was people racing. The witness saw your car, assumed (from the loud exhaust) you were racing. The person reports it to the cops...30 min. later you're leaving and the cops spot your car.
This is the typical life of a rice rocket owner. Sucks big time, but look at where it's all coming from... Just on the news last night, I heard that a passenger in a modified Accord died while racing another car (a Civic?). We'll lose the stereotypes when all these dumbasses stop street racing.
Sure, you may not street race...but I'm sure there are a hell of a lot of us here on this board that do. Hence, the negative stereotypes, attitudes, etc towards rice rockets.
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August 29th, 2000, 06:04 PM
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August 29th, 2000, 06:10 PM
#13
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by lightsped:
"You go to the coffee shop at 10:45. Did you drive their with other friends driving too? At any point did you floor it, rev, etc? From my experience, in nice, rich areas, the people tend to report a lot of stupid ass things. So, even if you were just driving along, a homeowner nearby might have heard a modified exhaust (if you or your friend has one) and thought it was people racing. The witness saw your car, assumed (from the loud exhaust) you were racing. The person reports it to the cops...30 min. later you're leaving and the cops spot your car."
Perfect!!!! Thats exactly what I think happened! My friend that was their drove a CRX with a LS engine, and straight pipes. Since leaving their you are required to drive up a huge hill, he floored it. maybe the witness did hear it, and saw my car in the parking lot, and said it was me! Wow! I think I will say something about this! Thanks for the new insight! Also any stuff the cops could use against me? (BTW I have a clean record. Jst went to traffic school to clear a speeding ticket around that same area! And worst of all that cop too was a asshole, and lied about my speed! I do admit to speeding then. Maybe 5-10over on a 45mph road. But not 85mph!!!!
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August 29th, 2000, 06:22 PM
#14
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That had to suck wank. I usually try to avoid Saratoga when I'm driving my Integra. I've had nothing but glares by cops when I'm there in that car. It's annoying too since I have to go through there to get to one of the movie theaters that I like.
As fucked up as it seems, the most reasonable cops that I've ever had to deal with have been CHP officers. Local cops, especially from rich neighborhoods, are the biggest assholes I've had to deal with.
If you decide to follow up with a complaint to the police department I hope you get somebody in trouble.
Sean
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August 29th, 2000, 07:41 PM
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August 29th, 2000, 07:45 PM
#16
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Did they ever read you the miranda Act? "You have the right to remain silent, you have the right", YADA yada...
If they did,then do not say anything from that point on. If they didn't, then it was a bogus arrest.
Ask the cops how the witness managed to get a complete plate off of a speeding car?
Sounds like a making of a decent harassment suit. Do you have time? At least file a citizens complaint. Don't expect courtious cops when you do though.
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August 29th, 2000, 08:06 PM
#17
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Hey, you didn't let the cops pressure you into admitting something you didn't do.
Witness, smitness -- they're allowed to say BS if it might get you to confess to something they didn't even know about.
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August 29th, 2000, 08:29 PM
#18
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They never got me to admit to saying I raced. They never read me my rights because I was never taken in. They said the "witness" saw me drive by his house twice. Which also make no sence still. See Saratoga is the type of city where the residents complain about everything. Including street lights! Yes thats right. Saratoga has no street lights. So if this witness saw me drive by twice, he would have to read my plate going by in a unlighted street. Not to mention getting blinded my be new HID's 
So this did happen, it would be almost impossable. Personally all I want is my record to show this never happended, and for the cops to get a lesson on police burtality. See I'm only 19yrs old. For me to go to court, and battle them would be a joke. There is now way a judge or anyone to listen to me. On Fri, I plan to go down to the police station, and get a report of the event, including officers name, and badge numbers. Why you ask? Well if I ever get pulled over again by them, I have some thing to hold up in court. See the cops told me that they will be looking for me, and they were not to happy about letting me go. So I think a judge might see a biased view from the officer. Are cops allowed to put you in their car with out reading your rights? Cause it is holding you agaist your will. Also aren't they suspossed to give you a copy of all the info taken?
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August 29th, 2000, 10:22 PM
#19
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Damn Mike, not to make it sound like African Americans are the only ones, but are you black? I used to get shit like that happening all the time to me. But just so you guys know, what Holden said is the best thing you can do. Say nothing! But police can interrigate and physically detain a criminal suspect with out giving Miranda warnings as long as the suspect is not in "Custody". Generally a time limit of 20 minutes or however long might take to remove the suspesion of criminality from the suspect (this is so that if a cop has to wait to get more info or something from another officer or witness the time is not as critical) It's called a "Terry stop" after a court case in Ohio where the suspects were detained for 40 minutes while contraband was seized yet they were questioned the whold time and never put "Under arrest". That really sucks that shit like this happens all over the country but the best thing to do is keep your cool and above all, don't mouth off to officers.
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[This message has been edited by Mr Rogers (edited August 29, 2000).]
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August 29th, 2000, 10:28 PM
#20
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Lol! I'm white as day. And no not the cocky smart ass white kid look either. But are the cops allowed to hold you from 11:15pm to 12:45am? That seems kinda long. Also the fact of threating me, that if I don't teel them the truth that I was racing, I would be sent to jail, and as the officers put it, "ass raped". They also said if the witness wanted to press charges on me, I would be sent to jail. Is this true, or BS. To my knowlage I thought the police had to witness the act of racing.
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